Once a Marine, Always a Marine : How The Right is Trying to Smear The Service of Scott Olsen with his own website (Updated)

We are ALL Scott Olsen

The recent events at Occupy Oakland have  galvanized the Occupy Wall Street  movement.  There is definitely a new resolve among the protesters in each city, not only in America, but world-wide. The  Iraq War Veteran and Marine named  Scott Olsen who was injured by police at Occupy Oakland, has quickly become the movements latest hero and rallying cry.  So imagine my surprise this morning when I woke up a little late, and realized that my phone and email had been going crazy.

Just what was causing all the buzz? Well……..  somewhere in the deep recesses of the Cyberspace lays a now defunct website called IHateTheMarineCorp.com .  The website, which is no longer active was an anonymous forum that allowed current and former Marines to vent their grievances against  the USMC with complete safety and anonymity.

The now defunct site seems to have been founded by Scott Olson, the Marine critically injured by Oakland Police this week at Occupy Oakland and Olsen is the former registered owner of that internet domain.

Apparently The Right seems to think that this is the bombshell which will extinguish the fervor behind not only Scott Olsen, but perhaps the Occupy movement itself.

Scott Olsen is an American. A 24-year old Marine who served not 1 but 2 tours in Iraq.  That alone makes him and thousands of Soldiers and Veterans like him MY Hero, and I Thank You For Your Service.  Olson’s love of Country and what is right,  does not stop there however.

Veterans for Peace

He is also a member  Veterans for Peace, an organization founded in 1985. Consisting of male and female US military veterans of World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other conflicts, as well as peacetime veterans. Veterans for Peace works to promote alternatives to war.

But Scott Olsen’s commitment went further. He knew based on his personal  experiences in the military, that War was not pleasant, that many, like him had grievances which were not addressed, and that some, if the persons identity were ever exposed, their military career could be and would be jeopardized. Thus the anonymous forum”IHateTheMarineCorp.com” was conceived and created.  Scott Olsen’s foray into Anonymous Web Forums ultimately did not survive, but while researching information for this blog post, I found many websites and/or forums that were, if not directly inspired by Olsen’s efforts, at the very least they had the same general idea.  As American’s we still enjoy the right to Freedom of Speech.  I may not necessarily agree with someone or even have to, but I will defend their right to express themselves always.

Last but certainly not least, Scott Olsen, like many of us,  felt compelled to participate in the Occupy Movement. To stand up for what is right, and reject what is wrong.  Sadly, this 2 tour Iraq war veteran, who was not injured in the conflict abroad, came home to his country to be critically injured in the growing conflict at home, by an organization that is only supposed to protect and serve the American Public.

Ironically, The Right has attempted to use the culmination of this information in an effort to disparage and demonize the service and character of Scott Olsen. I have seen and read everything from him supposedly being Anti-Semitic, to being a traitor or deserter, when nothing could be further from the truth.  My response to the Right  is an emphatic, “Try Again”.

Scott Olsen did not choose to be the latest Hero of  Occupy movement and we cannot and will not allow others to choose our heroes for us.  Real Heroes are never chosen. We know them when we see them, and we thank them when we meet them.  Thank You Scott Olsen, for we are ALL Scott Olsen.

by Richard O. Emanuel Jr. (Occupy Cyberspace/Reclaim America from the Lunatic Fringe!)

UPDATE:

Anonymous message to Scott Olsen of Occupy Oakland

Author’s Note:

I did the followup research on this myself… it seems to be the same guy…  I have been hearing about a similar article on PoliticsUSA where they cast some doubt as to the ownership of the domain IHatethemarinecorp.com. by merely referencing The Domain WHOIS information, which can be seen here:

http://whois.domaintools.com/ihatethemarinecorps.com

But what the politicsUSA story does not find is the Pledgie.com  fundraising account that is connected to the Ihatethemarinecorp.com that is also registered to a  Scott Olsen to include a profile picture which has been open since May 10, 2010 under the user name solsen230

you can find this account here:

http://pledgie.com/accounts/solsen230.

Scott Olsen’s

Youtube account:

http://www.youtube.com/user/solsen230

and his twitter account:

http://twitter.com/#!/solsen230

both mention IHateTheMarineCorp.com

This information was not included in the PoliticsUSA story.

This additional information, does not change a thing.  I look at Scott Olsen as a Hero, not by his choice, by by circumstance, and we should support him in his recovery….  again… Thank You for Your Service Scott Olsen, both here, and abroad.

In addition the Politics USA story also goes on to say
“This doesn’t mean that it can’t be the same Scott Olsen, but the point is, what does it matter? This is America. Scott Olsen is still a hero who served his country in Iraq, and a hero does not deserve to be smeared in a desperate attempt to discredit a movement.”

Here is their story if you’d like to read it also:

http://www.politicususa.com/en/right-smear-scott-olsen

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16 comments on “Once a Marine, Always a Marine : How The Right is Trying to Smear The Service of Scott Olsen with his own website (Updated)

    • @ Jon…. I did the research on this myself… it is the same guy… what the politicsUSA story does not find is the Pledgie fundraising accouint that is connected to the Ihatethemarinecorp.com and it his Scott Olsens account along with his picture… you can find this account here http://pledgie.com/accounts/solsen230.

      In addition the Politics USA story also goes on to say
      “This doesn’t mean that it can’t be the same Scott Olsen, but the point is, what does it matter? This is America. Scott Olsen is still a hero who served his country in Iraq, and a hero does not deserve to be smeared in a desperate attempt to discredit a movement.”

      Jon… I spent all morning verifying this BEFORE I even wrote the story, but thanks for your concern!

  1. Scott: Your hero status just broke my Richter scale. You finally realized you were a mere pawn in the Bush attack on another country (that just happens to have lots of oil and a birds-eye view of Iran) and reacted by setting up a PRIVATE (till the Murdoch-style spies got a hold of it) site for other Marines to vent and possibly heal (since your government won’t bother to worry about your psychological health). I laud you and pray for your FULL recovery, most particularly recovery from a war started and built on lies. Leave it to the War Mongering Republicans to try to invert your bravery and turn it into disgrace. The shame lies with THEM.

    • Debra: As I thought I pointed out-There is a much better chance than this site being pointed out is NOT even his site:
      http://www.politicususa.com/en/right-smear-scott-olsen
      The Gateway Pundit is the go to site for the extreme ideological right wing. It also has the journalistic integrity of North Korea. In the latest post by this vile website, Jim Hoft, Gateway’s owner wrote and posted this article titled “Good Grief… Leftie Hero Scott Olsen Is Founder of “I Hate the Marines Corps.com” & Is a Jew-Basher”.

      Now, knowing the right wing’s history of fabrication and lies I dug into the history of the website they reference, IHATETHEMARINECORPS.COM. It turns out that it is registered to Scott Olsen, BUT it is registered to Scott Olsen from Milan, Illinois. The Scott Olsen the Gateway Pundit is referencing is Scott Olsen from Onalaska, Wisconsin who was critically injured at Occupy Oakland. Scott moved to California after finding a job in the information technology field in San Francisco, with the help of his roommate Keith Shannon. The distance from Onalaska WI to Milan Ill. is over 200 miles away.

      The website they reference was created on January 28th 2009. Scott was deployed to Iraq twice. The first time, August 2006 to May 2007 and then from 2008-2009, he left the Marines in November of 2009

      • Author’s Note:

        I did the followup research on this myself… it seems to be the same guy… I have been hearing about a similar article on PoliticsUSA where they cast some doubt as to the ownership of the domain IHatethemarinecorp.com. by merely referencing The Domain WHOIS information, which can be seen here:

        http://whois.domaintools.com/ihatethemarinecorps.com

        But what the politicsUSA story does not find is the Pledgie.com fundraising account that is connected to the Ihatethemarinecorp.com that is also registered to a Scott Olsen to include a profile picture which has been open since May 10, 2010 under the user name solsen230

        you can find this account here:
        http://pledgie.com/accounts/solsen230.

        Scott Olsen’s

        Youtube account:

        http://www.youtube.com/user/solsen230

        and his twitter account:

        http://twitter.com/#!/solsen230

        both mention IHateTheMarineCorp.com

        This information was not included in the PoliticsUSA story.

        This additional information, does not change a thing. I look at Scott Olsen as a Hero, not by his choice, by by circumstance, and we should support him in his recovery…. again… Thank You for Your Service Scott Olsen, both here, and abroad.

        In addition the Politics USA story also goes on to say
        “This doesn’t mean that it can’t be the same Scott Olsen, but the point is, what does it matter? This is America. Scott Olsen is still a hero who served his country in Iraq, and a hero does not deserve to be smeared in a desperate attempt to discredit a movement.”

        Here is their story if you’d like to read it also:

        http://www.politicususa.com/en/right-smear-scott-olsen

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  3. As a former service member with 4 Iraq tours, all I can say is cry me a freakin river. He was actively engaged in doing something HOSTILE. Arrests were made during the protest where he was injured! They were throwing rocks and bottles at the police!! How many tea party protest arrests/injuries have you seen? You don’t have to be physical to get your point across. And I’m sure if I saw a full-grown Marine coming at me while I was told to defend a position, I would have done the same thing the police officer did: defend myself.

    You can point fingers at republicans all you want, but He Got Himself Shot. He was at a rally that was NOT peaceful of his own free will. He chose to be part of the movement, a movement where police were forced to use non-lethal defense. Boo-Freakin-Hoo. Cause and effect, Marine.

    Reading throught the article I get the feeling that I’m being preached to about how awesome Scott is. The better he looks, the better his support will be. Of course Occupy will try to use this sob story to their advantage, why wouldn’t they?

    • He got shot in the face with a tear gas canister. A protest that didn’t turn violent until the police attempted to violate the constitutional rights of the protestors. Watch the video. He wasn’t throwing things at the police, yet they still shot him in the head. There was no reason for the police to even be aiming their gas cans at eye level. There was no reason for them to be violating the rights of the protesters. There was also no reason for one of them to throw a flash-bang grenade into the small group of people trying to pick a brain-damaged Scott Olsen off the ground and get him to safety.

      Your ignorance in this case is astounding Matt. He was at a demonstration that police, through the violation of constitutional rights, turned violent. The crowds began dispersing, which is what happens when you’re hit with tear gas, and during that time he got shot in the head with a projectile that doesn’t need to hit anyone to work by an officer aiming them at eye level. He, and others, then got further attacked when people were trying to take him to get medical attention. Its not ‘boo-freakin-hoo’ and your idiocy in saying as much is only eclipsed by your insensitivity. Its a tragedy that easily could’ve been avoided had the police respected individuals rights.

      Also, your reference to Tea Party rallies hints at your rather obvious bias. This isn’t about political affiliation. Tea Partiers should be just as offended by a person’s constitutional rights being violated and their injury at the hands of police as anyone else. But if you want to talk about them, the fact that they’re not, due to their political affiliation, shows their hypocrisy and why they’re not worthy of respect. Had police across this nation violated the rights of tea partiers, brutalized them, jailed them without probable cause, etc. we would’ve seen issues there too. But they didn’t because Democrats generally don’t sick police on the American people in violation of their personal liberties. Unfortunately, the Republicans aren’t ethical enough to offer the same courtesy.

      Whether you like it or not, Scott Olsen is a hero. We are the 99%. We are Scott Olsen. We respect your rights and expect ours to be respected. If you can’t do that, take your bias elsewhere.

  4. I just learned something I didn’t know. It could be other Marines pulling stuff up. Even if it’s true, I still say we owe Scott respect for his service. I am not a Marine. Some of them may feel Scott is not ‘due’ respect. I think we need to take care of all our vets, no matter what their viewpoint. Again, I am not a Marine. Maybe they feel they are protecting the image. None of this matters to me, though. He served. Therefore he has my respect. I don’t need to know anything else. I owe him my Freedom.

  5. I don’t even understand the mainframe of the right and their attempt to demonize Scott Olden. I think that there are plenty of people like Scott who enlist because of hollywoodenized “patriotism” and glorification of war, only to find it is nothing like they expect. Who better to shed light on the autrocities our county commits, not just on our own young people but on other countries as well than a marine whose seen the truth with his own eyes? Most of these young men and women come home with a much different perspective of this country than they leave with. War changes you. This makes me respect Scott Olsen even more.

  6. Matt clearly has not seen the same videos I have.

    Matt has decided what the facts of the case are, and determined the just outcome in his mind. He did all this without the benefit of knowing what he was talking about.

  7. Even if this Scott Olsen and the website owner are the same, it doesn’t detract from his service to our country. If he hates the Marine Corps he likely has lots of company, from both sides of the political spectrum. If all were hunky dory with the military we would have been out of Iraq in Feb 2009, as it was not an honorable war for our nation and should never have been initiated. Whatever his motivation, if he started the site, it is within his right as an American, just as it was within his right to protest with the Occupy movement. For all the noise the baggers make about “their” rights, they are the first to want to violate someone else’s.

  8. We’re talking about a group who talked America into believing a combat vet who earned a purple heart in Vietnam was somehow less patriotic than a deserter who never left the US soil, and his running mate who never served a day and applied for multiple deferments. They have no morals.

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